D&D dyno run

[rainman1ne]

here it is, base line run 5th gear, 50-150mph roll on. Will have updated exhaust run next week
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[no_rice]

the curves dont look bad, i just hope some more tweaking of the pipe pulls out a little better power.

i want a better sound out of mine but not at the expense of a fair amount of horse and torque.

do you have any pics of what the pipe looks like on the bike?

[ponti1]

Wow! Those numbers look SMALL!!! I was expecting at least around 130 RWHP on a conservative dyno...Folks on BadWeb have been posting up to 141 RWHP for their stock 1125R.

[rainman1ne]

No pics yet, will be going down there next week to do so. The first system he used was a stock style (single can stock exit) and was WAY to loud, he compared it to a drag bike, this coming from D&D. The system he might be ending up with is a twin can with both exiting the right side to clear the lower belt cover just under stock length. His goal is to hit 80 ft. lbs. on the dyno and is pretty confident he can do it. The dyno they use uses the new SAE standards, Im sure if I put it on a DynoJet dyno it would put it up to 130-135 hp. Another benefit is the 14 lbs. of weight I will be losing by going with stainless over the stock can.

[Andyman]

I'm not that impressed with the numbers either. I'm assuming the ECM is still on stock settings with this run?

[rainman1ne]

bone stock, dont know how to adjust ecm? My first Buell, still learning what we could do with these things, way different than my gixxr

[johnjzjz]

the 10 pounds is a real thing in stainless BUT titanium will be the thing to have in a year when V&H or someone else gets to it first -- most exhaust companys wont keep a computer guy on staff and only when one of them sets the bar at > A GUESS 18HP gain than all others will step up to the plate, but the first ones on the market will be at best 1 or 2 rear wheel HP over a stock unit and wont look like the ones that will be along over the summer, if the bike really catches on ( i for one hope so ) than the rags that have always laughed at buell will be doing freebees to get the next write up -- lots of stuff is in the wind -- jz

[1125RDEMON]

Those # suck... if that was the case I should have bought a R6 and saved almost $4K...:mad:

I hope they are able to get better # for the bike with out using the dyno to fake the #'s

[rainman1ne]

Here is another from Texas at another board, different dyno, different #'s, same bike.http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o265/travelingmanphotobucket/DynoRunJan14thBuell1125R6thGear.jpg

[ponti1]

Is the bike broken in? how many miles on it? any more info you can provide?

[rain_bolt]

Those # suck... if that was the case I should have bought a R6 and saved almost $4K...:mad:

I hope they are able to get better # for the bike with out using the dyno to fake the #'s

I might just think differently then everyone else or I might not, but if you bought a Buell for hoursepower. You bought it for the wrong reason. I'm not trying to be an a** but its true.

[rainman1ne]

210 miles, no more info till the end of next week when they will have the final dyno run with finished setup. I didnt buy it for the #'s, I would have kept the Busa for that reason, I like the bike thats why I bought it! looks good, handles great and I got it for 11K out the door. Yes I do get crap from my buddies "But its a Buell", to each his own.

[1125RDEMON]

I might just think differently then everyone else or I might not, but if you bought a Buell for hoursepower. You bought it for the wrong reason. I'm not trying to be an a** but its true.

I still expect a V-twin Sport bike to have better figures than that... with more CC than a Ducati 1098 the 1125R should be able to put around 140 hp which is what Buell adverticed... the ducati makes somewhere around that to the wheels stock...

[Cataract2]

I still expect a V-twin Sport bike to have better figures than that... with more CC than a Ducati 1098 the 1125R should be able to put around 140 hp which is what Buell adverticed... the ducati makes somewhere around that to the wheels stock...

Something to keep in mind, the HP all manufactures advertise is crack HP. Normally you have about 10-15% loss through the drive train. The chart that was posted was with a D&D exhaust installed. Not surprising the loss that happened due to changing it so much without changing the fuel maps and intake. Can't do one without the other. Now, most dyno graphs I'm seeing now are around 130. Seems about right.

[johnjzjz]

I still expect a V-twin Sport bike to have better figures than that... with more CC than a Ducati 1098 the 1125R should be able to put around 140 hp which is what Buell adverticed... the ducati makes somewhere around that to the wheels stock...


all the hype is just that if you don't understand the fact that a dyno run is a tool not a bible of absolute power - meaning its not the big number you look for its how long it takes to get their --- < thats the real power in the motor -- and YEP you bought the wrong bike dude you dont get it -- ducati has 10,s of thousands of race wins their is nothing that cant be done to them they have built their company around racing --- the NEW buell is just that the company's first attempt at a real contender and all of that is to be seen, BTW its first real motor combo is something else -- NOW you bought one right, and you have driven it, and no place did i see you have said is sucked ?????????????????? whats up, do you or dont you like it ------------------ been racing harleys 35 years and your a rider or just an owner -- many a guy i built a bike for that couldent ride it when it was done -- Can you ride over the top of this new bike ??????????????????? ==== jz

[1125RDEMON]

all the hype is just that if you don't understand the fact that a dyno run is a tool not a bible of absolute power - meaning its not the big number you look for its how long it takes to get their --- < thats the real power in the motor -- and YEP you bought the wrong bike dude you dont get it -- ducati has 10,s of thousands of race wins their is nothing that cant be done to them they have built their company around racing --- the NEW buell is just that the company's first attempt at a real contender and all of that is to be seen, BTW its first real motor combo is something else -- NOW you bought one right, and you have driven it, and no place did i see you have said is sucked ?????????????????? whats up, do you or dont you like it ------------------ been racing harleys 35 years and your a rider or just an owner -- many a guy i built a bike for that couldent ride it when it was done -- Can you ride over the top of this new bike ??????????????????? ==== jz

wow sounds like someone needs a midol... Yes I ride and I ride alot... My last sport bike was an 06 R1 and it was a fun bike. I like V-twins that's why I got the Buell, I also understand how dynos work... not only do I ride motorcycles but I also drag race.... I have a 9 second mustang convertible that is some what dependable for the stree... I don't know if I got the wrong bike or not... I'll let you know when I take it to the track... or if I get out run on the street by a 600 or a 750... for the money that Hd sales these 1125R's you can buy alot of machine from other manufatures and still have some pocket change... if the dyno runs are in the low 130HP IMO the bike will be a disapointment...:mad: My V-rod is rated at 120 hp at the crank...

[Cataract2]

My V-rod is rated at 120 hp at the crank...

And your 1125R is rated at 146hp at the crank. Think about it.

[Yamatr3]

I'll say I am a little disappointed in their numbers too. When I saw that first chart at approx 140, I was excited. Now I am seeing 120... I guess I'll have to keep watching.

[1125RDEMON]

Just wondering if they check the oil level on the bike they are using to make the pipe... my 1125R was overfill with oil...

[rainman1ne]

yes it was overfilled, i took care of it before I brought it to D&D

[Hayabusa]

Dyno's are not all the same and there are lots of factors that contribute to the run. First, the pull was done in 5th gear; must pulls I have seen or have had done on my bikes are done in 3rd. Second, was there air being forced into the bike, RAM air is very important when it comes to making power. My 636 put 119 to the ground, and I can tell you without even cracking into the 1125 that the Buell has a much stronger engine. My butt dyno, which has been calibrated by a Hayabusa indicates that the 1125 puts about 140-145 to the ground when moving on the highway.

[johnjzjz]

Dyno's are not all the same and there are lots of factors that contribute to the run. First, the pull was done in 5th gear; must pulls I have seen or have had done on my bikes are done in 3rd. Second, was there air being forced into the bike, RAM air is very important when it comes to making power. My 636 put 119 to the ground, and I can tell you without even cracking into the 1125 that the Buell has a much stronger engine. My butt dyno, which has been calibrated by a Hayabusa indicates that the 1125 puts about 140-145 to the ground when moving on the highway.

road racing in a horsepower to the rear wheel class like 106 to the tire we raced 10 / 15 years ago - at the end of the race they the top 4 finishers before leaving the track would have to be dyno spun to insure that all 3 winers were at or under the 106 the 4th bike was only spun if one of the top 3 had failed and made more than 106 -- and the dyno to make apples apples had a 900 pound drum ( same dyno followed the circut ) and one gear down from top gear was the one used buells were 4 th gear spun as most being 5 speeders -- and their is a computer hooked to the dyno and all the shops have 2 different sets of #s that can be used actual HP with the actual conditions at that time OR the BULL # which is the corrected ONE < having said that it is the corrected for a reason ( corrected HP is that of a perfect weather day with zero elevation 60* that sort of thing < it makes it easy for a shop to sell what they did to your bike also > now if after the exhaust is installed it has the same bike 150 to the tire WOW thats a 30HP gain < not the way we do it in my shop -- jz

[1125RDEMON]

Any updates??? Pics???? anything???? :)

[rainman1ne]

Just went there yesterday to check the bike out. Have a dyno sheet but on paper, the hp is up 8 points and tq is up 6. Without a tuner that is all he can do. The system they are using is also about 11lbs. less than stock, it is LOUD!!!! I was shocked at how loud a full system is. I will have pics at the mid of this week when i pick it up, and will be able to post a dyno sheet at that time too.

[jonxmartini]

video's to please:D

[1125RDEMON]

Just went there yesterday to check the bike out. Have a dyno sheet but on paper, the hp is up 8 points and tq is up 6. Without a tuner that is all he can do. The system they are using is also about 11lbs. less than stock, it is LOUD!!!! I was shocked at how loud a full system is. I will have pics at the mid of this week when i pick it up, and will be able to post a dyno sheet at that time too.

I'm not too familiar with the buells tunning, I have seen posts where guys ask about two devices to help tune the bikes... Will a POWER COMANDER work with the Buell?

[BuellGator]

I'm not too familiar with the buells tunning, I have seen posts where guys ask about two devices to help tune the bikes... Will a POWER COMANDER work with the Buell?

I'm sure that power commander will be working on something for the Buells. I'm hoping that maybe they can get ECMSpy sorted for the 1125.

[rainman1ne]

From what I was told most Buells use a DOS based ECM, the 1125 doesnt. This was the big hold up and snag about tuning mine, they would have bought one if it was available to use on mine. I cant recall who he contacted (D&D) to see if one was in the works but was told something would be out mid year.

[ccryder]

1125rDemon:
You should have spent your $'s on an IL4 if you wanted more HP. Buells are designed for the best torque/ power curve for the street, not max numbers, not top end in a straight line.

Power Commander or ECM mods maybe will help but, it will be 10%, or under. The FI Thunderstorm engines needed a race ECM to help remove the EPA dip around 5,000rpm. Even with the full race kit there was less than 10%. Ah such is life, good luck with your Mustang.
Later
Neil S.

[no_rice]

i know, if you want to go fast dont buy a buell. you cant gain much out of the motors.

i mean we only gained about 20 horse and 15 pnd ft of torque out of my stock bore air cooled 984 with a drummer and 9 hours of tuning. i dont know why Al couldnt get more out of that thing before he had to catch his plane. then there is only a small 50 horse shot of juice on it because i didnt think it could handle a big one...

[1125RDEMON]

a friend of mine has an Aprila with a rotax engine and his bike will do about 170 mph... the engine size is less than the Buell... all I said was that if the bike is only pushing 130 hp to the wheels is a disapointing thing... the 1200 sporter engines make around 100 hp... i expected around 140 to the wheels for the 1125R and that is still an underpower sport bike. I like the buell, I rode it for 551 miles last sunday and the only problem I had was due to cold weather (too cold to ride) the bike did have a vibration on the front end around 140 mph... so I'll look into getting a steering dampener (sp) for it. Guys don't get me wrong... all I said was that 130 hp with A/M pipes will not work for me. I understand about the bike will need to be tuned for the new pipes... maybe that's where the missing 10-15 hp are.


for the money the 1125R shold be able to keep up with the 998 CC jap bikes... note I said keep up, it does not have to beat them... right now we are lucky to stay behind a 750 GSXR with the figures we were given by D&D.

[BuellGator]

Well, if you gear your 1125 like a Mille, I bet it will be capable of those kinds of speeds.

Also I want to see the before and after Dyno runs, I don't care what the numbers are I want to see what the gains are.

[no_rice]

i know, if you want to go fast dont buy a buell. you cant gain much out of the motors.

i mean we only gained about 20 horse and 15 pnd ft of torque out of my stock bore air cooled 984 with a drummer and 9 hours of tuning. i dont know why Al couldnt get more out of that thing before he had to catch his plane. then there is only a small 50 horse shot of juice on it because i didnt think it could handle a big one...

i hope you guys realized i was being sarcastic...:cool:

the 1125 will pull those kinds of speeds or damn close. i know it will get into the 160's and still climb. with reports of the track of just into 170. and so far all the people checking the speedo with there gps's say the thing is pretty spot on.

also i personally know it will out run a zx10, r1 and a race slicked non streetbike 999. it doesnt blow them away, but it would out pull them on the front straight at road america. i dont know what years they were. but the r1 and the 999 were instructors personal bikes and they said it wasnt like they were trying to let me get by.

[Andyman]

i hope you guys realized i was being sarcastic...:cool:

the 1125 will pull those kinds of speeds or damn close. i know it will get into the 160's and still climb. with reports of the track of just into 170. and so far all the people checking the speedo with there gps's say the thing is pretty spot on.

also i personally know it will out run a zx10, r1 and a race slicked non streetbike 999. it doesnt blow them away, but it would out pull them on the front straight at road america. i dont know what years they were. but the r1 and the 999 were instructors personal bikes and they said it wasnt like they were trying to let me get by.

I'll second this being I was there that same day.

[Yamatr3]

also i personally know it will out run a zx10, r1 and a race slicked non streetbike 999. it doesnt blow them away, but it would out pull them on the front straight at road america. i dont know what years they were. but the r1 and the 999 were instructors personal bikes and they said it wasnt like they were trying to let me get by.

You can't compare how fast a bike will be like that. There are so many factors at work here it not even funny. If you want to compare these bikes straight up, you need the same rider, same bikes, on the same track, on the same day, and then you need to look at the lap times.

[no_rice]

You can't compare how fast a bike will be like that. There are so many factors at work here it not even funny. If you want to compare these bikes straight up, you need the same rider, same bikes, on the same track, on the same day, and then you need to look at the lap times.

well you are somewhat right, and somewhat not.

first we are not comparing the same bike. that would be pointless. it is against different bikes.

it was the same track.

so you are telling me that 2 people come out of the same corner, both whack the throttle. and both go down a very long straight. one bike out pulls the other bike the WHOLE length of that straight and you cant say that that bike is faster? especially considering the guys riding the bike that got out ran were profesional riders? i personally would think they would have the advantage even on a slower bike, that being my first track day it should be the other way around.

i get what your saying, but not the same thing as what we are really talking about.

[Chevrolet&Buell]

i know, if you want to go fast dont buy a buell. you cant gain much out of the motors.

i mean we only gained about 20 horse and 15 pnd ft of torque out of my stock bore air cooled 984 with a drummer and 9 hours of tuning. i dont know why Al couldnt get more out of that thing before he had to catch his plane. then there is only a small 50 horse shot of juice on it because i didnt think it could handle a big one...

I was waiting for this post to come. Hey its the days of something for nothing, not many people are willing to put nine hours in at a dyno and we all know how expensive that gets.

I personally have taken off work and spent 5 hours at a dyno for my boat motor. $ and parts are nothing without a good tune up.

I'm confident we will see some big numbers from these bikes.

[Yamatr3]

so you are telling me that 2 people come out of the same corner, both whack the throttle. and both go down a very long straight. one bike out pulls the other bike the WHOLE length of that straight and you cant say that that bike is faster? especially considering the guys riding the bike that got out ran were profesional riders? .

Yes, that's what I am saying. I understand where your coming from, but 2 mph's difference, coming out of a corner, is huge, especially at Road America because the straight is so long.

I'm not trying to dis you or the Buell. I really like 1125 and want to buy one. But just comparing them how you did is very subjective. The only way to truly compare these bikes in that situation is to make sure they both have the same corner exit speed. Then you could truly see which bike is faster.

[Yamatr3]

first we are not comparing the same bike. that would be pointless. it is against different bikes.


I meant the same group of bikes, like you mentioned in your first post.

[434josh]

I have to say, i test road one at my local dealership and decided not to buy after sleeping on it. The bike just didn't feel like I think it should have. Maybe it was just the particular bike. It felt way down on power. My previous bike was making 124 to the wheel with 54 lbs of torque and felt very comparable. I thought it was maybe because of the flat curve being deceptive but then I rode a comparable 1000cc v twin making less hp but about the same tq and new something was wrong.

The other thing that stopped me was the belt almost came off on test ride and the dealership could not figure out how to fix it saying there was no adjustment for rear wheel position. The belt kept sliding off away from the wheel and was rubbing on something under the front pulley cover.
I was there last weekend when they finally sold the bike and it still had the same belt problem.

[BuellGator]

It sounds like the dealer has no idea what to do with Buell:(.

[rainman1ne]

Well today is the day, I will be picking it up from D&D this afternoon. I will post pics tonight after I get to the house.

[BuellGator]

I can't wait to see this pipe:D:D:D!

I will be furiously F5ing when I get home.

[jonxmartini]

...its this evening wheres the pics im impatient lol...and if theres anyway get a vid for the sound :D

[no_rice]

impatiently waiting..........;)

[rainman1ne]

Loading pics and a vid, give me a sec

[jonxmartini]

woooooo :D:p

[rainman1ne]

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[rainman1ne]

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[rainman1ne]

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[rainman1ne]

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[rainman1ne]

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[rainman1ne]

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[rainman1ne]

Sorry for the blurry images, did the best i could. Its cold and I'm shivering give me a break! By the way, much louder in person.

[jonxmartini]

sounds cool as hell...doesn't look half bad either. The new rotax/buell engine might not sound like an old harley v-twin but i love the sound anyway. two thumbs up :D...now if only i had money for one of these bikes :rolleyes:

P.S. are you happy with it?

[Buellbomb]

I like it!

[rainman1ne]

Oh ya, My ears are still ringing from the ride home. I'm not much of a "Necked Bike" fan but I will be making a belly pan if one isn't out by the end of this year, it just looks like its missing something with that pipe on. Just to let ya'll know the pipe will be selling next week and D&D will have sound clips and prices on their site Monday, no I dont know price yet!

[jpfive]

Have you had it on the Dyno to compare to your baseline run?

[1125RDEMON]

I like the looks of the pipe, I would like it in black... how did the bike feel on the ride back? trottle responce, heat from the pipe... please keep us posted, also once you ride the bike for a while if you could let us know about your gas comsumption (sp)... sounds great. :D

[rainman1ne]

Don't have image of dyno run, didn't get to "have fun" on the way back, too much traffic in Fort Worth. Cant feel anything from the pipe but the seat gets plenty hot sitting in traffic!!! Haven't found anything negative about it yet. On the dyno chart it did make more in the low end and the "dip" is gone, doesnt fall below baseline through the whole run. They are making a non-polished version so you could paint or coat it to make it black, like I said before I'd wait for the belly pan.

[Buellbomb]

How much weight difference is there? If you weighed them, that is.

[rainman1ne]

Factory 19.5 lbs, D&D 8.25 lbs.

[no_rice]

not to bad, i was just looking at it on badweb. i am unsure of what i think of it at the moment. it could be WAY worse thats for sure! almost anything has to sound more appropriate than stock though! lol

[Paint shaker]

a friend of mine has an Aprila with a rotax engine and his bike will do about 170 mph... the engine size is less than the Buell... all I said was that if the bike is only pushing 130 hp to the wheels is a disapointing thing... the 1200 sporter engines make around 100 hp...

Were you referring to 1200 Sportster engines in Harleys or Buells??? I just had my 98S1W on a Dyno Jet and it spun about 86 HP... I Know a stock H-D Sporty will not have the same numbers.....

[BuellGator]

Looks and sounds bad to the bone, now I want some riding impressions:cool:.

[crash1369]

its no harley but it sounds pretty good.

unfortunately looking at it makes me want to vomit. :) i didnt really have any problem with the looks of the stock one and this just looks wrong in my opinion, like its on the wrong bike. and i hate how it looks sticking out the side. but thats my opinion.

what were the gains, anybody have a sound clip of a stock bike?

[1125RDEMON]

Were you referring to 1200 Sportster engines in Harleys or Buells??? I just had my 98S1W on a Dyno Jet and it spun about 86 HP... I Know a stock H-D Sporty will not have the same numbers.....

I was reffering to the engine on the XB12R... is this a Sporster engine??? maybe is not...

[jonxmartini]

I was reffering to the engine on the XB12R... is this a Sporster engine??? maybe is not...


It evolved from the sportster engine but has alot more power then a sportser has

[rain_bolt]

Sounds like a Porsche.

[98acrsilver]

looks hott from the back but from the side it looks like a honda rebel pipe, but it sounds better then it looks

[Evi|grin]

Hey Mclovin :))

Sounds good when its wrapping up but idle is well.... the typical dual pin crank sound. Sure has a nasty bark though...reminded me of the D16RR for a second.

I cant wait to test ride one. Im about done researching and the 1125r looks great to me plus its cheaper than the Duc 848.

BTW first post here so HI and hopefully i will be adding a 1125r soon.

[1125RDEMON]

Hey Mclovin :))

Sounds good when its wrapping up but idle is well.... the typical dual pin crank sound. Sure has a nasty bark though...reminded me of the D16RR for a second.

I cant wait to test ride one. Im about done researching and the 1125r looks great to me plus its cheaper than the Duc 848.

BTW first post here so HI and hopefully i will be adding a 1125r soon.

welcome to the board... this is a great place, you will like it.

[98acrsilver]

prolly look better if it was gunmetal or black in color

[Andyman]

It sounds like a V-Rod that an ex co-worker of mine had with whatever aftermarket pipe he had only better. I'm big on the looks of it though. I was hoping it was going to be some sort of 2 into 1 into 2 similar to the D & D pipe for the XB's.

[Chevrolet&Buell]

Wow it would take me years to get used to that sound. Power is one thing but I think I'm too old fashioned for that.

[sidepipe79]

I would have preferred that is stay under the bike. I am not a big fan of it sticking out the back like that. Maybe shorten up the pipe and move the muffler under the bike.

[rainman1ne]

that would result in a drop in power and blowing your eardrums, its loud enough already

[jonxmartini]

any updates on how your liking the pipe?

[rainman1ne]

Still going good, gas mileage stayed the same, cops know me by name now. On a side note I just had the bike picked up because the battery is shot, only sat for one day, and was leaking gas after a long ride.

[1125RDEMON]

Still going good, gas mileage stayed the same, cops know me by name now. On a side note I just had the bike picked up because the battery is shot, only sat for one day, and was leaking gas after a long ride.


I once over fill the tank all the way to the top and it drain in down a little...

[rainman1ne]

the gas light was on when it happen

[ponti1]

the gas light was on when it happen

This sounds like the cracked fuel rail problem some folks on BadWeb are having...I'm pretty sure the fix for them was to drop it off at the dealer for some warranty work :(

[RNT Racing]

If the weather clears here in Ohio and i can get some more miles on mine, i will dyno it and post the results. Keep an eye out for them. Sunday is prodicted to hit 42 degrees so good day for some riding.

[rainman1ne]

Hell no! too cold for me, its 78 here in Dallas right now. Thats riding weather!

[98acrsilver]

cha your in texas for us guys in ohio and pa this time of year 45 is like a summer day

[crash1369]

cha your in texas for us guys in ohio and pa this time of year 45 is like a summer day


thats what im saying, hell 45 is nicer then allot of the summer days out here in the poconos. ill take 45 over 105 anyday

[Ferris Bueller]

thats what im saying, hell 45 is nicer then allot of the summer days out here in the poconos. ill take 45 over 105 anyday

word up. There's no frost on the ground @ 45, so it's all good to me. Any day I can ride I RIDE!